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Gymnastics Adds 'Kiss and Cry' Score Zone
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Artistic gymnastics is getting a new "kiss and cry" area, the FIG announced Saturday. Rhythmic gymnast Yevgenia Kanayeva (Russia) sits with coach Vera Shtelbaums in the "kiss and cry" zone while waiting for her score at the 2008 European Rhythmic Gymnastics Championships in Torino.

Artistic gymnastics is getting a new "kiss and cry" area, the FIG announced Saturday.

"The Federation is taking steps toward making its competitions more entertaining, while it champions and furthers the concepts of ethics and justice in sports," the FIG stated on its Web site.

Artistic gymnasts will join figure skaters and rhythmic gymnasts, who already wait in the score zone to receive their marks after competing.

Gymnastics competitions are in "dire need" of overhaul, the FIG Executive Committee and Council decided following a meeting in Lillestroem, Norway.

"The posting of scores was completely revamped. Judging will be honed and the time frame used to post scores cut down," the FIG stated. "Scores given by judges will be even more closely monitored, and Artistic will be brought up to speed with Rhythmic, Trampoline, Aerobic and Acrobatic with its very own Kiss and Cry corner."

The "kiss and cry" zone is also a potential source of revenue for the FIG, which can sell ad space on the area backdrop.

What do you think of the addition of "Kiss and Cry" for artistic gymnastics? Comment below and be heard!

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Munch said:

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Hmmmm
This could be interesting, but is it only for EF, or for all areas of competition? It might not work as well during team or AA finals or preliminaries.
 
May 23, 2009
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LadyJane said:

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Those were my thoughts exactly...this isn't like figure skating or rhythmic, where you have one athlete on one event at a time. You have a four-ring circus (and with men, a six-ring). Will they have multiple kiss-and-cry areas?It seems like this would significantly slow down the competition if each competitor had to wait for the previous person's score - the competition would last a week. I'm confused.
 
May 23, 2009
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LadyJane said:

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I think this might potentially be bad for the sport, as it will lend further credence to the belief that a judged sport like gymnastics is not a "real" sport.
 
May 23, 2009
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Cam said:

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Seriously?!
This is the FIG's biggest mistake since cutting team sizes from 6 members to 5 members, or since following a tie-breaker rule.

Kiss and cry isn't entertainment, its pointless. Gymnastics fans watch gymnastics to see gymnastics. Instead of spending useless minutes videotaping a gymnast waiting with his/her coaches and teammates for their scores, show more routines! It isn't a difficult concept to grasp. NBC and FIG are destroying this sport.
 
May 23, 2009 | url
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Griddster said:

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Wouldn't it be strange for the competitors who don't look at the score, having to see and wait and all the attention on them, but then they don't look. Other than that, I don't see anything else wrong with it.
 
May 23, 2009
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Elaine said:

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In my opinion, this is the stupidest idea the FIG has come up with in a while, and that's saying a lot.

Gymnastics fans do not want to watch gymnasts sitting around. They want to watch gymnastics. The more air time is given to gymnasts waiting for their scores, the fewer routines will be shown on TV. That's not a good thing.

As others have pointed out, the kiss-and-cry zone may work for event finals, when only one routine is performed at a time, but I dearly hope it will not be a part of team or all-around events, where multiple routines are going on at the same time. Who wants to watch a disappointed gymnast waiting for her score when they could be watching another routine? We watch gymnastics to see gymnastics, not to see a bunch of people sitting on their bums.

I don't think the gymnasts will be very happy with the new arrangement, either. Having a camera pointed at you when you're still smarting at the two falls you just suffered because the FIG forces you to try to skills you're not actually capable of in hopes of getting a good D score is not very nice.
 
May 23, 2009
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SportsNET00 said:

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Seriously!! This is getting ridiculous. FIG is destroying the sport of artistic gymnastics. Just let the gymnasts do their routines and get ready for the next event. There is no way that I would have wanted to stop at some "kiss and cry" thing to wait for my score. I always just did one routine, erased it from my mind (or at least tried), and moved on. No thanks!!
 
May 23, 2009
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Misha said:

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What the hell are they thinking?
What kind of people are leading the FIG? This will only make competing more difficult to manage, gymnasts shouldn't have cameras in their face after a routine, they shouldn't feel pressured by media during an event where they will likely have further events to compete. This is a real low-blow, with gymnastics evolving into extreme difficulty and risk, why are they thinking of the viewers?! They should focus most on creating a comfortable competition environment where gymnasts can focus on what they're doing, not feel pissed off at the camera man. As a gymnast and gymnastics fan all I would like to see is gymnastics routines, not an awkward gymnast sitting down waiting for their score.
 
May 23, 2009
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Amy said:

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I totally and completely agree with Cam! When I watch 2 hours of gymnastics, I would actually like to see 2 hours of gymnastics...not 30 minutes of gymnastics and 1 1/2 hours of fluff! I don't need to see joy or disappointment from the athletes and coaches. I vote that this is a really stupid idea!!!
 
May 23, 2009
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Ella said:

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I totally agree with Cam. This isn't entertaining, it's absolutely pointless. It just means less gymnastics and more waiting around during competitions, as if there weren't enough already. This will ternish the image of gymnastics instead of helping it : instead of showing the grace, challenge and work our sport entails, we'll be showing fake drama that will just comfort the occasional viewer in his opinion that gymnastics is all about girls in leotards bitching about each other.

Our sport is impressive and interesting enough on its own. In that optic, it's showing more routines that will help us gain fans, and not showing people waiting around. I already have a hard time watching meets on NBC because there are so many commercial breaks, the commentary is questionable to say the least, and many routines I'd like to see are not shown. If I'm unable to enjoy watching my favorite sport because of sucky coverage, there's no way a potential fan will get what gymnastics is all about watching that same coverage.
 
May 23, 2009
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m said:

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this is stupid some gymnasts dont want to know their scores, and want to stay focused during the meet, not having a camera shoved in their face after every event/score. what idiot thought this was a good idea
 
May 24, 2009
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Rusty said:

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If the judging were to get any slower then the gymnasts would need bed and breakfast at the arena.
As for the cry zone.. after attending The Euros in Clermont Ferrand i witnessed The Romanian
junior team celebrating a bronze medal as they were herded out of the arena by officials only to see them come back in for the medals in 4th place and in tears as the organisers had not corrected the scores.
Ana Porgras on beam EF waited so long that the FX final was already starting by the time her score came through as the scoreboards had broken down. (nobody with even half a brain even thought to announce her score on the microphone) She actually won gold, but then was cheated out of celebrating it as the competition had moved on to floor without any final scoring.
 
May 24, 2009 | url
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Lee-Z said:

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What's new about this?
Don't they already have kiss/cry areas at the world-cup meets? I haven't been following closely this year, but I remember older coverage of DTB cup or Glasgow Grand Prix where they already had a "waiting for your score" zone at EF?
 
May 24, 2009
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Reese said:

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Puh-leeze!
Adding a "kiss & cry" area won't make competitions more entertaining. It will only make competitions more boring. What's so exciting about watching a gymnast and his/her coach sitting around & waiting for the score? Instead, the FIG should reinstate a maximum score of 10, insist that women's FX contains more choreography and fewer tumbling runs/hideous leaps, limit difficulty, and bring back ROV. Gymnastics was a beautiful sport that's been going downhill since 1993 -- when the FIG started messing with competition formats, etc.
 
May 24, 2009
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Elaine said:

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Amen, Reese. What I'd like to see more than anything else is every single change made since 1993 being undone and returning to 1980s-style gymnastics, when originality and virtuosity were still being rewarded. It's time the FIG remembered why the sport is called artistic gymnastics, rather than acrobatic gymnastics.
 
May 24, 2009
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what? said:

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Where did the gymnastics in gymnastics go?
Whatever happened to celebrating your scores with your team? this is stupid--less time for actual gymnastics on tv, less comraderie, less time to go mentally prepare for the next event! COME ON, FIG
 
May 24, 2009 | url
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Becca said:

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What a dumb idea. This has got to be the final straw for me. Please, someone recall those FIG idiots! Do you have a kiss and cry area in basketball? hockey? golf? Why destroy gymnastics like figure skating? There isnt the pagentry in gymnastics like in skating or even rhythmic -- its athletic. KEEP IT A SPORT. smilies/angry.gif
 
May 24, 2009
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SuAd said:

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What?
They have a similar 'wait your score area' at the Swiss Cup in Zurich, and it works ok for this small and friendly competition, but it cannot possibly work in a big c'ships! As for making the judges work faster to get the scores out - that's just mean! I'm a judge, and consider myself to be reasonably efficient, but if I were to be put under pressure to get the scores out faster (than the normal 1min 30 sec) then I know I could be making calculation errors!
 
May 24, 2009
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Veranationgirl said:

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I agree that this 'Kiss & Cry' could only work for EF. Otherwise, it is as they are forcing emotions. The best emotions are ones that come naturally. Lilia P.'s vault at the '95 Worlds AA was just a classic emotion. I would much rather have a gymnast run to their coach or be in silence. The cameras only seem to be advertising not doing good for the sport.
 
May 24, 2009 | url
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Alison said:

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Totally ridiculous idea!!! We want to see GYMNASTICS!!! I used to watch figure skating and HATED all the wait time for people to get their scores. For gymnastics, does this mean we're not going to get to see all the other events going on (during team and AA) while the ONE person gets their score?? The FIG has TOTALLY lost their minds!! First they take away the 10.0 and now we have to sit and watch while they give out their new asinine scores?
 
May 24, 2009
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Split Leap said:

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The FIG is making a terrible mistake.
In my opinion, this is a horrendous idea. I think it will majorly slow down AA or team finals, cause less airtime for real gymnastics (I'd rather see a beam routine than a girl taking a drink of water, etc. while waiting for her floor score), and most importantly, I think it's demeaning to the gymnasts. If she/he messed up a routine, he or she does not need nor want cameras watching their tears. Who needs any of that?
 
May 24, 2009
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Munch said:

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Erm, whilst I agree with a lot of what's been asid some of it doesn't take into account other stuff. In event finals a gymnast will have to wait for the last one's scores anyway so whilst it might not work in TF and AA it'd be fine in EF. And as Lee-Z said many world cup meets have them anyway. And rhythmic and figure skating work fine with it. It's only in team and all around i think it's pointless. I see little problem with it in ef.
 
May 24, 2009
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Linda said:

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this is a bit much now
this is complete crazy talk!! gymnasts as i am one myself dont want to spend time sitting and watching a score board to tell you what you got! itll just make you lose focus and well kill time you could use going over your routine mentally. Whoever thought of this is seriously disturbed and obviously has never participated in the sport of gymnastics!! And anyways how would that even work there are way to many different gymnasts competing on different apparauteses at one time in a meet and that would be way to hectect in AA and in team finals!
 
May 24, 2009
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wtf? said:

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i can't believe this stupidity. i can't imagine who would actually like this, except maybe some of the 60+ female crowd...my mother and mil come to mind. i'd much rather watch the sport!
 
May 25, 2009
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Someone said:

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what about the gymnasts WHO DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE SCORE?
 
May 25, 2009
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schood85 said:

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they should have thought this through...
If the issue is selling ad space, why not sell space on the bottom of the screen, while showing more routines? They could show more routines while revealing scores on the bottom of the screen with the gymnast's picture, name, event and score, along with an ad.

This clearly only works for EF. The FIG gave no details about how this will work. They need to get more people's opinions before they make decisions. I feel like I could run the FIG better than they do!
 
May 25, 2009
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Coach George said:

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Elaine said: ... It's time the FIG remembered why the sport is called artistic gymnastics, rather than acrobatic gymnastics.

Huh? Acrobatic Gym is not televised, least not in US so not sure if they use the booth or not. Not sure if I would like it there either. Rather just get lots of routine exposure. Rather do slow motion replays if they got blank air time between judgements instead of a boring booth.
 
May 25, 2009 | url
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Michelle said:

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This is perhaps Bruno Grandi's downfall and it can't come too soon. Of all the idiotic things that man has tried to do to gymnastics, this is the worst. Artistic gymnasts need time to setup the next apparatus, put on grips, shoes, chalk up or whatever to move to the next event. To send them to a 'sitting area' will not only hold up the meet, make it longer, it's also a distraction from the 'focus' the gymnast is in at the time. With complaints already mounting over the length of meets due to judging delays, this decision is reprehensible!

I'm truly getting ashamed for the sport I love so much. Gymnastics is loosing its image right and left and Bruno and his cohorts will all be remembered for its demise.
 
May 25, 2009
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bethany said:

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DUMB!
wow. the FIG is really sucking the life out of this sport. as if losing the 10.0 scoring system wasn't bad enough, now we have a lame "kiss & cry" area. are they trying to make gymnastics more pansy-ish than it already is? as a former gymnast, when i consider the image that gymnastics has to outsiders...this is really devastating. as it is, most people only watch gymnastics during the olympics. they can't even grasp the scoring because the perfect 10 is gone. and now, because of this whole "kiss & cry" nonsense, gymnastics is going to seem as pansy-ish as ice skating! i'm not saying this to offend any ice skaters, and i personally think skating is amazing. but one has to consider the image of gymnastics to OUTSIDERS. most men don't watch men ice skate because they think its girly and dumb and some men don't watch men's gymnastics for the same reason. this "kiss & cry" thing is going to make that worse, and lose more of the small audience that gymnastics has.
 
May 26, 2009
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Luzabeth said:

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Ridiculous!
I think it's a ridiculous idea. Gymnastics is getting so lame. Thank heavens my daughter is young enough to hopefully go into a different sport as she gets older.
 
May 26, 2009
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Vicki said:

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Soap Opera
FIG must be competing for the stupidest idea OR is getting bribed by NBC -- whose sole goal in reporting gymnastics is to turn it from a sport into a soap opera. Can you imagine track & field or swimming cutting down the size of the relay team to five -- three competing in the final: the 3 by 100 and then wait for the times in a kiss and cry. Ridiculous!
If they need advertisements posted, the NBC reporters can WEAR them.
I think an open-ended scoring system is good (gymnasts who perform more difficulty need to be rewarded for it) and it DOES need to be displayed better. But they could do something like diving, which has the judges' scores on a 10.0 scale clearly displayed and then the awarded mark is multiplied by the degree of difficulty (very easy for fans to understand).
 
May 26, 2009
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Mindi said:

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Good Night...And Good Luck Gymnastics!
After reading everyone's posts it's clear the true followers of gymnastics are as disgusted as I am. The last time I checked "Gymnastics" was a sport; not a television show, though I am not sure if NBC is maybe jealous because they didn't pick up the new gymnastics tv series that will be on a competitor station?!?! FIG, can we make this about the gymnasts and not TV politics? I don't care what station my gymnastics events air on, in fact, when ABC aired gymnastics the commentating was outdated and just as annoying as it is now. The main difference from 1980 to now is that we are moving to less and less of actually watching gymnastics to more and more time on the in between stuff like watching gymnasts sit on the floor, talking to their coaches, biting their finger nails, backstory profiles (which I think are good but too many), oh wait, lets get a shot of the commentators talking to each other, etc. It really isn't a competition being televised anymore, it's television trying to control our competitions. It's sickening and I cannot believe the FIG will not stand up for it's athletes and do what it best for them. When there are more athletes that would be impacted negatively rather than positively by a change, that change should not happen. Do you hear us FIG/NBC? My apologies to all the athletes if this does go into effect, especially to one Miss Nastia Luikin who has worked her entire life to show the world what gymnastics could be again, what it should be, and in a blink the dream of watching more magnificent routines like hers are dashed away.
 
May 27, 2009
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María said:

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I think that is stupid and ridiculous idea, I HATE that. The FIG is worse and worse everyday. Seriusly, sometimes I think that they want to destroy the artistic gymnastics...
 
May 31, 2009
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Ann Caroline said:

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So they are gonna keep cutting the number of gymnasts competing to make time for this????

Mark my words, by 2016 we're gonna see an all-around field of just top 12 and it's gonna be like figure skating with just enough personalities for the once-a-quad fans to keep up with. It's be a little drama with "characters" and all the rest effectively whittled out of the whole thing.

So sad.
 
June 14, 2009
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Ricky said:

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RIDICULOUS !!!!!
How dare FIG give in to commercial companies and accept our sport to be so corrupted and polluted by those ridiculous ads and banners ?
I can't understand that, this is a shame.
 
June 15, 2009
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Ricky said:

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Can the gymnasts/coaches say NO ?
Just a simple question : will the gymnasts and coaches be able to refuse to go into that publicity zone if they don't want to advertise for free ?
 
June 15, 2009
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Nicki T. said:

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Event Finals should be fine...
Oi, so much negativity from all of you guys! I think the "Kiss and Cry" zone should be used for event finals only, as mentioned before by other people since it would be too complicated for all-around and team finals/preliminaries. I think it might be interesting to see how it would work so instead of blasting it with assumptions it'll ruin the sport, test it first. Then if it sucks, complain about it to the FIG.
 
August 26, 2009
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Peer Pressure said:

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Western Values
The Eastern europeans used to kiss smack on the lips. Digital replays and the influence of international teams has almost wiped this out. Seems like they want to parade their victory now.
 
April 22, 2013
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