Stretching Out: Beijing, London and the Phantom 10.0

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Like all Olympic Games, Beijing 2008 represented both an end and a beginning. Careers have concluded for some gymnasts, while others will battle a new generation as the next quadrennium begins. The first big test will be the 2009 World Championships, to be held from Oct. 13-18 at the 02 Arena in London. Individual all-around and apparatus titles will be on the line, and with various veterans retired, a few surprise world champions could emerge.

Look for Fabian Hambüchen, Kohei Uchimura and Jonathan Horton to be among those chasing the men’s all-around title. With the right motivation, Paul Hamm could win in 2009 too. It’s a pity to see all the hard work he put in go to waste, but then again, he’s already won a world all-around title.

It may be premature to predict another duel between Nastia Liukin and Shawn Johnson, given the opportunities both are enjoying at present. So if neither shows up in London, Russia’s Ksenia Semyonova would lead my picks to win the women’s title. But I would never count out Chellsie Memmel, who won in 2005 under the same meet format.

China’s Yang Yilin and Jiang Yuyuan are also likely candidates, assuming the Olympic team gold didn’t end their careers. A Chinese woman has never won a world all-around title, and 2009 might be ripe for the picking.

Speaking of the Chinese women, did anyone else notice how much a few of them struggled in Beijing with the sole circle transition from low bar to high bar? Their technique, for which they are generally so well known on bars, was simply abominable on this element. I don’t buy the excuse that the skill is difficult for short gymnasts, because Shawn Johnson did it very well. The Chinese seemed to shoot their legs toward the high bar without opening their shoulder or hip angle enough. This created no forward rotation and left them in a virtual dead hang on the high bar. He Kexin, who won the event, was one of the biggest culprits.

Something else I’ve noticed for years about the Chinese on bars is their skill selection. Correct me if I’m wrong (and I don’t mind if you do), but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Chinese gymnast do a free hip-reverse hecht, Stalder-reverse hecht or sole circle-reverse hecht. They are primarily a Tkatchev and Jaeger program, complemented by numerous elgrip combinations. It’s a simple palette of skills, but then again, most artists (painters, musicians, etc.) stick with what is comfortable and familiar.

I’m not sure what mandates were established for judges under the current Code of Points, but I thought some of the execution scores in Beijing were a bit severe. If Nastia Liukin had done the vault she did in the all-around final 20 years earlier, at the Seoul Olympics, she would have scored a 10.0. Or at the very least, 9.95. In Beijing, her execution average was 9.525.

If the FIG is going to promote the concept that the 10.0 is still part of the open-ended scoring system, then it should allow gymnasts to score one occasionally. Or at least get close. I’m not suggesting the 10.0 become as common as it was at Seoul 1988, when 40 were awarded. But as it stands now, who will ever remember what Liukin scored on that beautifully stuck vault? 

That vault was a salient moment in the all-around final, and had the potential to market gymnastics to the masses. Its score, however, conveyed a different message to viewers, who could only deduce that it must not have been that special. Under the circumstances, it was remarkable.

When the new Code was introduced in 2006, I was OK with losing the 10.0 as the final score because I thought we’d finally see it again in the B-score. Remember, the 10.0 had disappeared since the 1992 Olympics, when only two were awarded.

Apparently, it has become extinct.


 

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Comments (13 posted):

AlexLiang on Tuesday, September 23, 2008
Dwight, I've found one Chinese gymnast who did performed an excellent free-hip reverse hecht - that's Xiao Tingting, although she didn't use it all the time (certainly not in the 2007 season) she has so many releases she can pick and choose which ones to put in the routine - but here she is performing the skill beautifully at the 2006 world cup event
in Shanghai. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y53f8RuDVk&feature=related
Elaine on Tuesday, September 23, 2008
Alex is right -- Xiao Tingting used to do a gorgeous Hindorff (as well as heaps of other releases). Also, back in the late nineties, Dong Fangxiao did a Comaneci, and before that, Mo Huilan and Liu Xuan threw Gaylords, while Guan Yuqing did a beautiful Tkatchev-Kim combination. So there ARE Chinese gymnasts who do different skills, although I agree they are few and far between. A little more variety to go with their fabulous technique would be nice.

I also miss high scores. Sure, there were too many tens in the old days, but wouldn't it be nice for gymnasts to know they can get close to a perfect score? It must be so discouraging to get close to perfection and still not exceed 9.60...

Then again, very few routines ARE perfect these days. Even many stable, wobble-free exercises carry plenty of deductions -- bent knees, lack of toe-point, a general lack of elegance. And those who ARE elegant tend to be prone to mistakes. It seems hard to get the complete package these days.

I hope Yang Yilin will do well at next year's world championships, to make up for the loss of the UB gold at the Olympics. The poor girl was robbed. Or alternatively, Xenia Semyonova. What a beautiful little gymnast.

Just wondering, is Viktoria Komova age-eligible for the 2009 world championships? She's an interesting gymnast, too, albeit error-prone.
fanofgym on Tuesday, September 23, 2008
Dwight, I think Hiroyuki Tomita still has another 4 years left in his tank. He's been very fortunate as an all-arounder not to have any history of injuries. The grip-pop on rings was a fluke and ended up costing him 2 points, fall / no credit / no dismount, which would have easily put him in silver medal position. Also, don't forget 2001 AA World Champion Feng Jing, he's in his prime right now and may get a chance to shine with Yang Wei appearing to be retired.
schood85 on Tuesday, September 23, 2008
I definitely think they should give out 10s in execution! It is a great idea. It seems like the judges are afraid to give high execution scores for some reason. It's like they take an arbitrary 3 or 4 tenths for no reason, then deduct actual mistakes from there. What are they thinking??
mag7fan1 on Tuesday, September 23, 2008
I won't count out Nastia and Shawn not being present in London. Even though they both had Olympic success I believe that they still want to compete and continue in London with what could lead to more success!
Zanney on Tuesday, September 23, 2008
I know everyone has nostalgia for the perfect 10 - but doesn't anyone but me LOVE the new scoring system? I think it's so much more fair, and really promotes more perfection than there used to be. The abundance of "perfection" at the '88 Olympics was ridiculous, and they were for routines containing too-short handstands and slight hops on landings. And some "ten" routines were much easier than others. I love the new scoring system which awards for execution and difficulty and distinguishes the good from the best. I do think it's hard to find deductions from Nastia's vault - but she did have the highest execution score of all, and as long as her execution was "ranked" appropriately, then I'm not upset.

My bigger concern is that the events aren't evenly distributed for difficulty. A 7.0+ difficulty is achievable on uneven bars, but virtually impossible on other events. Thus, in my opinion, if you aren't really strong on uneven bars, you are at a severe disadvantage.
gold on Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Zanney, I agree with your first paragraph. I really don't mind that there is no perfect 10, and the general public doesn't seem to care either. I can't remember the last time gymnastics was this popular in the Olympic Games. That AA Final was viewed and loved by hundreds of millions of people. I'll never forget that vault, whether it got a 10 or a 9.525. As long as Nastia had the highest execution score of the day on vault, I'm satisfied. This code still needs a little work, but this is so much better than the old code. (Still I personally would have given that vault a 9.8 or so.)

Zanney, as for your second paragraph, you are at a severe disadvantage if you are weak on ANY event. While it may be easier to get a higher SV on bars, in the end it's all relative. If a girl does a yurchenko full, she's going to be at a major disadvantage on vault even though it's a lower scoring event.

As for London, I think we'll be seeing Nastia there, maybe even twice. :)
Vicki on Wednesday, September 24, 2008
It seems many gymnasts from the same gym work similar elements and also, once a gymnast learns how to do an element well, then does variations of it (various entries into the reverse hecht). It is not just the Chinese on bars, but all countries on all apparatus. On floor, you have some gymnasts who do only twisting elements; others do only double saltos; the US championship high bar was a Kollman-a-thon while other countries seem to be glued to the bar with various in-bar elements. It was so nice to see the Japanese work high bar and use a variety of high-flying and intricate moves (some nostalgia for Alexei Nemov's routines). Gymnasts don't really get rewarded for that in any way.

Otherwise, I like the idea of the open-ended scoring system. (An artificial 10.0 ceiling on difficulty was like saying a sprinter shouldn't run under a 10-sec 100 meters.) Unfortunately, the judges are still not using the system well, but fall into their bad habit of lumping everyone within a few tenths of each other. The difference between an excellent and a sloppy routine should be a few points, not a few tenths. They have the opportunity to make those distinctions but have not been doing it. With Nastia, it's a moot point (because she won), but had the competition been closer, those phantom deductions could have made a difference in the final standings. The vault was perhaps not powerful enough for a 10.0 but probably clean enough to get 9.8+. The judges have to learn to reward gymnasts more appropriately.
Elaine on Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Tee hee. A Kolmanathon. I like that, Vicki. The Olympic final was one, too. I think that's why the judges gave Zou Kai the gold on high bar despite his obvious form breaks -- he was the only one not to do a Kovacs/Kolman/Cassina, and they rewarded him for it. Message to male gymnasts: originality IS rewarded. For the love of God, don't build an entire routine around one big skill repeated several times.
Janafan on Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Have we ever seen a Chinese gymnast do a Shaposhnikova while we're at it?

I'd like to see a compromise and go back to perhaps 1972-1980 level scoring for the B scores. They were more reasonable and also really easy to understand. A 9.8 meant a great routine, a 9.6 was an okay routine, and a low 9 was bad.
Vicki on Thursday, September 25, 2008
Elaine, I see what you mean about the "reward" for doing different elements, but I thought one of the benefits of the new scoring system was that each routine could be scored on the basis of its own merit, instead of waiting to see what everyone else is doing. (So, if the first gymnast up does an easy routine -say 5.5- absolutely perfectly, the judges can still feel free to award a 10.0 b/c a gymnast who does a difficult routine perfectly can get a higher score.)
I don't have anything specifically against the Kolman (it's a cool move) but I don't want to see the repetition of it and the Kovacs in various positions with a few giants cranked in between (or three different Jaegers) in the same exercise.
Perhaps variety could be encouraged better in the A score. Perhaps the same move in different positions could count as repetition (just as a change of grip for the same move). Also, why not do away with the freebee of 2.5 for element groups? But if an element group is omitted in the exercise, only nine elements would be counted (just like a missing dismount). That would allow space in the scoring for an additional difficulty group (A-F just lumps too many elements with varying difficulties together).
Stonehawk on Thursday, September 25, 2008
To have Yang Yillin win? Over my dead body. I prefer to that no Chinese girl Olympian who is being investigated for her age win any medals at the Worlds. They could take her Olympic medal away and wound up taking her World medal away too due to her being underage. So don't support the Chinese till this investigation is over with.
KristyJ on Friday, September 26, 2008
schood85 wrote ~ "I definitely think they should give out 10s in execution! It is a great idea. It seems like the judges are afraid to give high execution scores for some reason. It's like they take an arbitrary 3 or 4 tenths for no reason, then deduct actual mistakes from there. What are they thinking?? "


I must agree with this completely. It seemed the best routines all ended up with some extra deductions while routines with more mistakes were judged more closely to reality. It was as though the judges were afraid to go too high or too low with certain teams.

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